In this RNB Podcast episode, Michael Lester interviews Josh Dawes (with Sydney energy and sustainability insights from Josh White) about the rise of ESG—environmental, social, and governance criteria—as a framework for evaluating value. From the origins in UN guidelines to its global reach, explore how ESG data guides investments across over a thousand pension funds and roughly $130 trillion in assets, the debates over greenwashing, and the ongoing political backlash in the U.S. against ESG as a driver of corporate strategy. A timely look at how sustainable investing shapes capital, risk, and the future of finance.